{"id":11460,"date":"2024-09-11T11:44:51","date_gmt":"2024-09-11T09:44:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/?page_id=11460"},"modified":"2025-06-24T17:01:40","modified_gmt":"2025-06-24T15:01:40","slug":"magnetohydrodynamics","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/en\/magneto-science\/magnetohydrodynamics\/","title":{"rendered":"Magnetohydrodynamics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; fullwidth=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_fullwidth_header title=&#8221;Magnetohydrodynamics&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; background_overlay_color=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0.2)&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/steel-billet-em-field-closeup.png&#8221; text_shadow_style=&#8221;preset3&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_fullwidth_header][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; disabled_on=&#8221;on|off|off&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; overflow-x=&#8221;auto&#8221; sticky_position=&#8221;top&#8221; overflow-x_tablet=&#8221;auto&#8221; overflow-x_phone=&#8221;auto&#8221; overflow-x_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_4,1_4,1_4,1_4&#8243; disabled_on=&#8221;off|off|off&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; sticky_position=&#8221;top&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_button button_url=&#8221;#description&#8221; button_text=&#8221;Description&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_button=&#8221;on&#8221; button_text_size=&#8221;15px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_button][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_button button_url=&#8221;#personnel&#8221; button_text=&#8221;Staff&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_button=&#8221;on&#8221; button_text_size=&#8221;15px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_button][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_button button_url=&#8221;#techniques&#8221; button_text=&#8221;Techniques&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_button=&#8221;on&#8221; button_text_size=&#8221;15px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_button][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_button button_url=&#8221;#publications&#8221; button_text=&#8221;Publications&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_button=&#8221;on&#8221; button_text_size=&#8221;15px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_button][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; module_id=&#8221;description&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"prose prose-neutral max-w-none select-text overflow-x-auto text-wrap break-words dark:prose-invert prose-p:whitespace-break-spaces prose-code:m-0 prose-code:whitespace-break-spaces prose-pre:m-0 prose-pre:bg-[#1e1e1e] prose-pre:p-0 prose-ol:pl-8 font-light\">\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Description<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) studies the behavior of electrically conductive fluids in the presence of electromagnetic fields.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">At the LNCMI both MHD of liquid metal and MHD of transparent media allowing direct optical observations, are developped. It permits to address various key questions including the one of <span>turbulence under the influence of magnetic fields. Turbulence lies at the heart of an large variety of natural and industrial processes. Turbulence leads flows to exhibit<\/span> <span>intense, erratic fluctuations over a wide range of length scales, making them extremely difficult to predict. Our limited understanding of their dynamics limits the development of computationally effective models and impedes progress in some of the greatest challenges in physics and engineering: how does the motion of liquid iron in the Earth core sustain the Earth&#8217;s B ? What is the optimal design for liquid metal heat exchangers to efficiently extract heat from nuclear fusion or upcoming sodium\/molten salts fast reactors ?<\/span><br \/><span>These challenges demand a profound understanding of how turbulence is affected by the Lorentz force, which arises within conducting fluids pervaded by a B.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; module_id=&#8221;personnel&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"et_pb_module et_pb_text et_pb_text_1  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\">\n<h3>Research staff<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_code _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<div class='rt-container-fluid rt-team-container rt-pos-r rt-team-container-11456' id='rt-team-container-257083570'  data-layout='layout2' data-desktop-col='2'  data-tab-col='2'  data-mobile-col='1' data-sc-id='11456' data-popup-bg=''><div data-title='Loading ...' class='rt-row rt-content-loader layout2 ttp-even ttp-pre-loader'><div class=\"rt-col-md-6 rt-col-sm-6 rt-col-xs-12  even-grid-item rt-grid-item\" data-id=\"17730\"><div class=\"single-team-area\"><div class=\"img-area rt-col-sm-2 rt-col-xs-4 \"><figure><a class=\"\" data-id=\"17730\" target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/en\/annuaire\/debray-francois\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"527\" src=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/DEBRAY-400x527-1.jpg\" class=\"img-responsive rt-team-img\" alt=\"DEBRAY Fran\u00e7ois\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div><div class=\"rttm-content-area rt-col-sm-10 rt-col-xs-8 \"><h3><span class=\"team-name\"><a class=\"\" data-id=\"17730\" target=\"_self\" title=\"DEBRAY Fran\u00e7ois\" href=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/en\/annuaire\/debray-francois\/\">DEBRAY Fran\u00e7ois<\/a><\/span><\/h3><div class=\"contact-info\"><ul><li class=\"tlp-location\"><i class=\"fa fa-map-marker\"><\/i><span class=\"tlp-location\">Grenoble<\/span><\/li><\/ul><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"rt-loading-overlay\"><\/div><div class=\"rt-loading rt-ball-clip-rotate\"><div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dist of main collaborators :<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Alban Potherat, Professor at Coventry University<\/li>\n<li>Suzanne Horn, Professor at Coventry University<\/li>\n<li>Samy Lalloz, assistant Professor at Coventry University (former Cotutelle PhD from 2021 to 2024)<\/li>\n<li>Laurent Davoust, Professor at Grenoble-INP<\/li>\n<li>J\u00fcrgen Spitznagel, Engineer at LNCMI<\/li>\n<li>Martin Holdsworth, Engineer at Coventry University<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; module_id=&#8221;techniques&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.26.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text module_id=&#8221;techniques&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"entry-title\">Techniques<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The LNCMI high field MHD activity is based on a ten year scientific collaboration gathering the Fluid Mechanics group at Coventry University (Prof. A. Potherat &amp; Prof. S. Horn), the MHD group at SIMAP-G-INP (Prof. L. Davoust) and the LNCMI (Dr F. Debray, J. Spitznagel).<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_toggle title=&#8221;The FLOWCUBE Experiment&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<div id=\"pl-gb2659-67121f4eb3480\" class=\"panel-layout\">\n<div id=\"pg-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0\" class=\"panel-grid panel-no-style\">\n<div id=\"pgc-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0-0\" class=\"panel-grid-cell\">\n<div id=\"panel-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0-0-0\" class=\"so-panel widget widget_sow-editor panel-first-child panel-last-child\" data-index=\"0\">\n<div class=\"so-widget-sow-editor so-widget-sow-editor-base\">\n<div class=\"siteorigin-widget-tinymce textwidget\">\n<p>The FLOWCUBE experiments is using liquid metal and focus on studies on turbulence and the specific magneto-waves the so-called Alfven Waves. In this experiment mapping of the flow are reconstructed from voltage measurements at the wall combined, when necessary, with ultrasonic probing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><i>The FLOWCUBE Experiment for <\/i><i>2D\/3D turbulence, Alfven waves<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/FLOWCUBE.png\" width=\"347\" height=\"312\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22452 alignnone size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/FLOWCUBE.png 347w, https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/FLOWCUBE-300x270.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 347px) 100vw, 347px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><i>J X B drive a turbulent <\/i><b><i>InGaSn<\/i><\/b><i>\u00a0 flow diagnosed <\/i><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><i>with electrical probes at the boundaries<\/i><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: left;\"><i>with ultrasound velocimetry along B<\/i><i>.<\/i><i><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><i><strong>Main contributors :<\/strong><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong><i>Prof. A. <\/i><i>Poth\u00e9rat<\/i><i> &amp; <\/i><i>S.<\/i> <i>Lalloz<\/i><i> (Coventry Univ)<br \/><\/i><i>Prof. L. <\/i><i>Davoust<\/i><i> (SIMAP Grenoble-INP)<br \/><\/i><i>F. Debray &amp; J. Spitznagel\u00a0 (LNCMI)<\/i><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_toggle][et_pb_toggle title=&#8221;The LEE experiments&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<div id=\"pl-gb2659-67121f4eb3480\" class=\"panel-layout\">\n<div id=\"pg-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0\" class=\"panel-grid panel-no-style\">\n<div id=\"pgc-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0-0\" class=\"panel-grid-cell\">\n<div id=\"panel-gb2659-67121f4eb3480-0-0-0\" class=\"so-panel widget widget_sow-editor panel-first-child panel-last-child\" data-index=\"0\">\n<div class=\"so-widget-sow-editor so-widget-sow-editor-base\">\n<div class=\"siteorigin-widget-tinymce textwidget\">\n<p>The Little Earth Experiment (LEE) uses a transparent conductive media and aims at modeling the complex magneto-convection which occurs in the earth (and planetary) inner core.<\/p>\n<p>One crucial issue for the development\u00a0 of such a science is the avaibility of high magnetic\u00a0 fields in large volumes \u00a0in order to observe the phenomena on a wide range of lengthscales to permit spectral analysis. LNCMI-Grenoble is today the only place worldwide where magnetic fields in excess of 10 teslas is made available to researchers in large bore configuration (in excess of 350 mm of diameter).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><i>The LEE Experiments for <\/i><i>Magnetoconvection in the Earth core<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LEE.jpg\" width=\"337\" height=\"233\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22450 alignnone size-full\" style=\"display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LEE.jpg 337w, https:\/\/lncmi.cnrs.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LEE-300x207.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 337px) 100vw, 337px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><i>A half sphere filled with\u00a0 <\/i><b><i>acid <\/i><\/b><i>\u00a0is rotating inside the magnet <\/i><i>PIV is used to obtain the velocity field<\/i><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><i><strong>Main contributors :<\/p>\n<p><\/strong><\/i><strong><i>Prof. A. <\/i><i>Poth\u00e9rat, Prof . <\/i><i>S. Horn, D. Keogh, M. Holdsworth (Coventry Univ)<\/i><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong><i>F. Debray, J. Spitznagel, R. Pankow (LNCMI)<\/i><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_toggle][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Publications&#8221; module_id=&#8221;publications&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.25.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3>Publications<\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_toggle title=&#8221;Selected publications&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div id=\"citationDataDisplay\" class=\"transparent\">\n<div id=\"citationText\">\n<div>\n<p>Four \u00a0key publications:<\/p>\n<p>Alfv\u00e9n waves at low magnetic Reynolds number: transitions between diffusion, dispersive Alfv\u00e9n waves and nonlinear propagation. <em>Journal of Fluid Mechanics<\/em>, 2025, 1003, pp.A19.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1017\/jfm.2024.1165\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e810.1017\/jfm.2024.1165\u27e9<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/hal.science\/hal-04909131v1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e8hal-04909131\u27e9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Magnetic Taylor-Proudman Constraint Explains Flows into the Tangent Cylinder. <em>Physical Review Letters<\/em>, 2024,<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1103\/PhysRevLett.133.184101?_gl=1*1qah8v5*_ga*MTU1NDM3MTY1Ni4xNzI3NzcyNzIx*_ga_ZS5V2B2DR1*MTczOTQ0MTc3Ni43LjEuMTczOTQ0MTkwNy4wLjAuOTk2OTA5NjEz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e810.1103\/PhysRevLett.133.184101?_gl=1*1qah8v5*_ga*MTU1NDM3MTY1Ni4xNzI3NzcyNzIx*_ga_ZS5V2B2DR1*MTczOTQ0MTc3Ni43LjEuMTczOTQ0MTkwNy4wLjAuOTk2OTA5NjEz\u27e9<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/hal.science\/hal-04945388v1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e8hal-04945388\u27e9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Inverse and Direct Energy Cascades in Three-Dimensional Magnetohydrodynamic Turbulence at Low Magnetic Reynolds Number. <em>Physical Review Letters<\/em>, 2018, 120 (22), <a href=\"https:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1103\/PhysRevLett.120.224502\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e810.1103\/PhysRevLett.120.224502\u27e9<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/hal.science\/hal-01897904v1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e8hal-01897904\u27e9<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Experimental evidence of Alfv\u00e9n wave propagation in a Gallium alloy. <em>Physics of Fluids<\/em>, 2011, 23 (9),<\/p>\n<p>pp.096601. <a href=\"https:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1063\/1.3633090\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e810.1063\/1.3633090\u27e9<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/hal.science\/hal-00602640v2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u27e8hal-00602640v2\u27e9<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_toggle][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; 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